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The Quote-A-Rama Comments
from: Stuart Mitchell Posted by Anna Jane Waters on April 15, 1999 at 16:00:45: While reading "As We May Think" I couldn't help but think of how similar the Memex is to something we had to think up in primary school. We used to have projects where you had to "design" the unltimate Watch, or Car or Phone. We would then set about putting every single existing piece of teechnology on the one object. Who knows, maybe one day my car with a hovercraft/helicopter option, may eventuate. Or maybe the invisible bike helmet so noone could see how silly you look with them on, or maybe the...... Posted by Paul Joseph Leone on April 14, 1999 at 16:20:48: It does not matter whether we regard the computer revolution as cause or effect: we are witnessing the emergence of a culture in which the preferred mode of representation is visual rather than linguistic and in which the highest value is the ability to assume multiple and unobstructed points of view. [in 'Introduction' section] A hypertext presents itself to a reader as a series of possible texts, only one of which is realised with each act of reading. [in 'The Hypertext and the Virtual' section]
Posted by Simone Terese Hoey on April 14, 1999 at 12:08:58: "...static media like print or desktop publishing do not allow the dynasimn or multiplicity of hypertext." - an extract from Writing on the Edge. Moulthrop's reading is a good example demonstrating the non linear writing techniques employed in hypertext. However, unless you are to make sense of this extra functionality, the reader is left confused, trying to grasp the essence of the essay. "...if we want new media to work changes, we will have to change the way we work". - an extract from Moulthrop's Shadow of an Informand Posted by Daniel Paul Moran on March 12, 1999 at 13:24:09: "What makes hypertext hypertext is not non-linearity but choice, the interaction of the reader to determine which of several or many paths through the available information is the one taken." From: What is Hypertext by Charles Deemer. Posted by Genevieve Fiona Dunn on March 12, 1999 at 15:49:28: What troubled Bush was the discrepancy between mankinds mushrooming storehouse of knowledge and his inadequate tools for accessing the knowledge. Posted by Hannah Merial Morton on March 17, 1999 at 12:37:45: "Today's technologists may be too trapped within the 'surfing' paradigm - clicking absentmindedly on links supplied by others - to recognize the value of being able to link back, to blaze your own trail through information-space." Johnson Posted by Genevieve Fiona Dunn on March 18, 1999 at 11:03:00: From "Links": the link should usually be understood as a synthetic device, a tool that brings multifarious elements together into some kind of orderly unit. From "Total Recall": the mind is a virtual space of intellection, that relates us to the worlds we encounter in appropriate ways. Posted by Kate Elaine Newlands on March 18, 1999 at 15:40:22: "Two features that were absolutely central to the classical art of memory - acutely detailed visual images and the invention of imaginary or virtual space - are defining characteristics of both the idea of digitally created environments (or cyberspace) and the visual programming language that transforms the idea into a virtual reality." pg. 69. Posted by Katherine Anne Grigg on March 19, 1999 at 11:23:02: Hypertext was suposed to revolutionize the way we tell stories, but it ended up transforming our sentences instead. Posted by Cameron Thomas Morris on March 25, 1999 at 16:49:31: In Reply to: Quote for the week posted by Katherine Anne Grigg on March 19, 1999 at 11:23:02: Follow up by Cameron Morris.... "Hypertextual writing creates a semiotic blur of cross-referencing. Every word is, in principle, a hot word that is linked to endless chains of reference, which, in turn, are linked to other referential traces. Furthermore, these networks are not fixed or stable but are constantly changing and shifting. The text is no more secure than the author is authorative." Taken from "Imagologists: Media Philosophy" Posted by Sonja Tomasovic on March 19, 1999 at 11:26:17: "....a link is a way of drawing connections between things, a way of forging semantic relationships. In the terminology of linguistics, the link plays a conjunctive role, binding together disparate ideas in digital prose." p. 111 Johnson Posted by Indira Redzovic on March 19, 1999 at 11:26:23: "Hypertext: text that is more than text, which is more than one word after another, from beginning to end , with no variation allowed". p.g.5 Deemer Posted by Katie Elizabeth Ridge on March 19, 1999 at 14:01:56: "Writing is in fact the defining characteristic of memory." (Derrida) "You know what you can recall." (Ong) From: Total Recall chapter 4 "Memory Trade" Posted by Erika Claire Lambert on March 22, 1999 at 10:20:34: "The term 'virtual reality' is, of course, an outrageous oxymoron." "The concept of space, or more specifically place, that was so important to classical rhetoric and the art of memory, is also the basis of the emerging cultural apparatus of electracy." "There is considerable irony in Yates' assessment of the art of memory as a 'forgotten art'." "Broadly speaking, the mind is a virtual space of intellection, that relates us to the worlds we encounter in appropriate ways." "Rhetoric...was a form of public remembering, a way of prompting recognition of the ideal forms of being that are reflected in the world of becoming, the confused world of earthly appearances." "Writing, as a 'receipt for recollection', was a bastardized anamnesis, an artificial form of bad memory, removed from the writer, and hence, beyond any proximity to truth." "Within cyberculture, mnemonic technologies are conceived as empowering prostheses of the mind." NB. These have been selected in a random sequence, but due to my copy having no page numbers, I have not been able to note them here. I will look them up and post them. Posted by Huei-I Chang on March 22, 1999 at 15:44:15: hypertext is an information medium that exists only on-line in a computer.It is constructed partly by the writers who create the links, and partly by readers who decide which threads to follow.Hypertext differs from printed text by offering readers multiple paths through a body of information: it allows them to make their own connections, to incorporate their own links and to produce their own links and to produce their own meannings. page ix Snyder Posted by Genevieve Fiona Dunn on March 22, 1999 at 20:09:08: McLuhan: The older traditional ideas of private, isolated thoughts and actions are very seriously threatened by new methods of instantaneous electric information retreival. When faced with a totally new situation, we tend always to attach ourselves to the objects, to the flavour of the most recent past. Taylor: one of the most perplexing problems we face is how to think historically in an age that has forgotten history. One of the wonders of the electronic age: robbing a bank without leaving home. Where is my safe deposit box in cyberspace? Posted by Indira Redzovic on March 24, 1999 at 16:43:50: "When information is brushed against information the results are startling and effective. The perenial quest for involovement, fill-in, takes many forms". McLuhan, 'The Medium is the Massage' Posted by Cameron Thomas Morris on March 25, 1999 at 16:55:48: "Madonna is one of the foremost imagologists in the world today. She ingeniously imposes new meaning on female subjectivity by the self-controlled use of mythical and imaginal strategies." Imagologies Posted by Cameron Thomas Morris on March 25, 1999 at 16:59:04: "There is absolutely no inevitability as long as there is a willingness to contemplate what is happening" The Medium is the Massage Posted by Kate Shelmerdine on March 26, 1999 at 11:09:27: "A printing press or a camera deals with represntations as end products . . . A computer on the other hand is a symbolic system from the ground up. Those pulses of electricity are symbols that stand for zeros and ones, which in turn represent simple mathematical instruction sets, which inturn represent simple mathematical instructions sets, which in turn represent works or images, spreadsheets or e-mail messages. The enormous power of the modern digital computer depends on this capacity for self-representation." The Medium is the Massage Posted by Katie Elizabeth Ridge on March 26, 1999 at 11:59:08: Quote from "Imagologies" by Taylor & Saarinen: There is no end to the net. Every destination is a point of departure and every departure is a destination. Apparent terminals are actually relays in a circuit that is forever in motion. From "The Medium is the Massage" by Marshall McLuhan: Print technology created the public. Electric technology created the mass. The public consists of separate individuals walking around with separate, fixed points of view. The new technology demands that we abandon the luxury of this posture, this fragmentary outlook. ???????????!!!!!!!! Posted by Matthew Richard Currie on March 26, 1999 at 12:14:39: "There are children playing in the street who could solve some of my top problems in physics, because they have modes of sensory perception that I lost long ago." (J. Robert Oppenheimer cited in McLuhan & Fiore, p.93) Posted by Sonja Tomasovic on March 26, 1999 at 12:20:31: "To live in the media is to live in the ephemeral. If you are not in when they call, they just call someone else. If you call them, thet never call back." From: "Imagologies" Ch. "Media Philosophy" p. 6 Posted by Erika Claire Lambert on March 29, 1999 at 13:22:14: "Hypertext rhetoric will need to examine the gaps as well as the integument of links, the unrealized or virtual possibilities as well as those represented in present structures, the event unfolding as well as the object that is disclosed." from Non Sequitur - Links and Gaps "...the experience of hypertext reading is fundamentally dissonant." from Non Sequitur - Lexia and Dialectics
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